Episodes

WWBUT 18 - Annihilation Book Report

What have we been up to? Not much, because there are so many episodes of The O.C. to watch!

What Missy's Been Up To

Watching:

The Masked Singer
The Good Place
Russian Doll

What Merri's Been Up To

Watching:

The Good Place
Annihilation

Reading:

Doctor Aphra by Kieron Gillen, Simon Spurrier, Salvador Larroca, Kev Walker, Joe Caramagna, Antonio Fabela, and Marc Deering.

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Episode 120 - The OC Part 1

You know what we like about rich kids? A lot, actually, because we're talking about The O.C.! We're taking a closer look at its representations of class, that (in)famous Alex/Marissa relationship, and the just absolutely overwhelming whiteness of Newport in our first episode on the hit teen melodrama.

Warning: Our episode contains mention of sexual assault, alcoholism, drug abuse, and other potentially triggering material. We also swear.

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

'Storytelling in Song: Television Music, Narrative and Allusion in The O.C.' by Faye Woods

Who is Ryan Atwood? Social Mobility and the Class Chameleon in The OC by Elizabeth Bullen

The O.C.: A Critical Understanding by Lori Bindig and Andrea M. Bergstrom

Josh Schwartz on ‘Gossip Girl’ and Avoiding the Mistakes of ‘The O.C.’ by Jada Yuan

Curious Guy: The OC By Bill Simmons

Like Mother like Daughter, like Father like Son: The Spell of Youth on “The O.C.” by Stefano Morello

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WWBUT 17 - Honk Honk Friend

Missy's been up to a lot. Merri, not so much. We hope you enjoy listening to Missy talk for roughly 10,000 years.

Warning: Things get a bit PG-13 toward the end when we talk about Hustlers, and Missy says the word ‘ass’ while quoting Ira Glass about The O.C.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Playing:

80 Days (review)
Mutazione (review)
Sayonara Wild Hearts (review)
Untitled Goose Game (review)

Reading:

Please Keep Warm by Michael Sweater
Be Your Own Backing Band by Liz Prince
Selected Poems by Alfred, Lord Tennyson
My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness by Kabi Nagata
Cat Women edited by Megan McMorris
John Constantine: Hellblazer vol. 6 - Bloodlines by Garth Ennis and an absolutely outrageous number of artists, but mostly William Simpson and Steve Dillon
Make5Wishes by Joshua Dysart and Camilla D'Errico

Watching:

Hustlers

What Merri's Been Up To:

Playing:

Untitled Goose Game

Watching:

The Good Place
Hustlers

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Episode 119 - Legends of Tomorrow

Forget what you've heard—Legends of Tomorrow is extremely good. Ready to hear about camp? How about talking to fans without condescending to them? How about a hypnotizing nipple? 

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

Notes on 'Camp' by Susan Sontag

The Wonderful Weirdness of Legends of Tomorrow by Riley J. Dennis

The World in the Evening by  Christopher Isherwood

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Bonus Episode - Fandom, Live from RenCon

What better place to explore the history and evolution of fan communities than live at a fan convention? We stopped by RenCon, located in Renton, Washington, to talk about fanfiction, Livejournal, and how Twitter is a cesspit. 

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

TRANSFORMATIVE MEDIA FANDOM from Grinnell College

Fans Are Better Than Tech at Organizing Information Online by Gretchen McCulloch 

Textual Poachers by Henry Jenkins 

DynamicSymmetry's Twitter thread 

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WWBUT 16 - Gonna Rip Hop on Pop a New One

Our schedule grows increasingly wonky as we recover from PAX and Missy gets a new job, but we're bringing you everything we've been up to over the past couple weeks anyway!

A Link You Might Find Interesting:

Skyler Jay Reveals His True Feelings on Queer Eye's Trans Makeover Episode by BJ Kaspar

What Missy's Been Up To:

Reading:

Snowbird by Erin K. Wilson
Bird by Bird by Anne Lamott
Critical Practice by Catherine Belsey
Daygloahole by Ben Passmore

Watching:

Queer Eye
Brick

Playing:

Red Dead Redemption 2
Donut County

What Merri's Been Up to:

Watching:

The 100
The Mortal Engines

Playing:

Let's Go Pikachu
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

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Episode 118 - PAX West

Ah, PAX West, a weekend of sheer exhilaration and many, many games. What did we play during the convention? Who did we talk to? Let's find out!

If you'd like to get right to our interview with Nina Freeman, skip to around 56:00. If you'd like to get right to our interview with Brianna Fromont, skip to around 1:17:00. 

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

What big publishers can learn about representation from small games by Meg Jayanth

What We Played:

  • Backbone

  • Mutazione

  • Frog Detective 2

  • Graveyard Keeper

  • Wattam

  • Softly With Teeth

  • Wooden Nickle

  • Calico

  • Spiritfarer

  • We Met in May

  • Telling Lies

  • Pokemon Shield

  • Best Friend Forever

  • Cook Serve Delicious 3

  • Elsinore

  • Neon Noodles

  • Tinted

  • Sayonara Wild Hearts

  • Wanderlust: Travel Stories

  • Touch Typing Tales

  • Errant Kingdom

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WWBUT 15 - There Are No Credit Cards in the Old West

Red Dead Redemption 2, A Court of Thorns and Roses, and Dracula—what do these things have in common? We've been up to them, that's what! Join us as we discuss cowboy oppression, the completely normal "dating a fairy" rite of passage, and the uniquely Victorian ability to drone on and on. 

What Missy's Been Up To

Playing:

Red Dead Redemption 2

Reading:

Dracula by Bram Stoker
The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde by Robert Louis Stevenson 

Watching:

Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark
Ready or Not

What Merri's Been Up To

Reading:

A Court of Thorns and Roses by Sarah J. Maas
Dr. Aphra by Kieron Gillen, Salvador Larroca, Kev Walker, Joe Caramagna, Antonio Fabela, Edgar Delgado

Watching: 

Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj

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Episode 117 - Cruel Intentions

Cocaine crucifixes, 27-year-old teens, and the decadence of the elite—it's time to discuss 1999's absolutely buckwild Cruel Intentions! Join us as we examine the cultural context of the late 90s, the intentions of the author (who is occasionally dead), and why a movie about horrible people being awful to one another is still so much fun. 

Warning: This episode has trigger warnings for, oh, everything. Sexual assault, emotional manipulation, drug abuse, death, et cetera. There's also a generous amount of cussing and discussion of sex. It's raunchy.

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

What Sex Was Like In The '90s by Kristine Fellizar

The “Mechanical Truth” behind Cruel Intentions: Desire, AIDS, and the MTV Movie Awards' “Best Kiss” by C. Benson Alott

How the Coke Cross from 'Cruel Intentions' Became an Iconic Symbol of '90s Teen Rebellion by Esther Zuckerman

Cruel intentions: Adaptations, teenage movie or remake? by Brigine E Humbert

T(e)en Things I Hate about Girlene Shakesploitation Flicks in the Late 1990s, or, Not-So-Fast Times at Shakespeare High by Richard Burt

"Potential Lesbians at Two O'Clock": The Heterosexualization of Lesbianism in the Recent Teen Film by Tricia Jenkins

When Pop Culture Meets High Literature.  The case of Cruel Intentions and the epistolary novel Les Liaisons Dangereuses by Betty Kaklamanidou 

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WWBUT 14 - And it is HOT HOT HOT

At long last, Missy's life has settled down enough to allow her to do things... for fun? Merri shares her spicy thoughts on Stranger Things, Missy goes off about Red Dead Redemption 2 despite it not being one of her things, and we both shower some love on Mccafferty.

Warning: Contains swearing and discussion of genitalia.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Watching:

Won't You Be My Neighbor?
The Hate U Give
Spider-Man: Far From Home

Playing:

The Black Widow (Missy's review)
Dixit

Reading:

The Witch Boy by Molly Ostertag
What is Obscenity? by Rokudenashiko

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:

The Great Hack
Stranger Things
Queer Eye

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Episode 116 - The Odyssey

Sing in me, Muse, of the importance of translation, the importance of nuance, and the original scoundrel: Odysseus. That's right, we're talking about The Odyssey! Join us as we discuss Emily Wilson's new translation in conversation with Madeline Miller's Circe and Margaret Atwood's The Penelopiad.

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

Why Read the Classics? by Ginni Chen

The "Odyssey" and the Western World by George de F. Lord

Homer for Scalawags: Emily Wilson’s “Odyssey” by Richard H. Armstrong

The First Woman to Translate the ‘Odyssey’ Into English by Wyatt Mason

The Odyssey translated by Emily Wilson review – a new cultural landmark by Charlotte Higgins 

Feminine Narrative and Subjectivity in Homer’s Odyssey: Structuring Dichotomies and Alternative Discourses by Catherine Johnson

The Complicated Radicalism of Emily Wilson’s The Odyssey by Janey Tracey

Athena and Penelope as Foils for Odysseus in the "Odyssey" by Lillian E. Doherty

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WWBUT 13 - I Killed a Man on the Moon Just to Watch Him Die

What have we been up to? Not-so-evil witches, aliens, and falling in love in the time war.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Watching:

Child's Play
Airplane!
Wicked

Reading:

This is How You Lose the Time War by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone
Cosmic Love, edited by Jennie Wood
Tooth and Claw by Jo Walton

Playing:

Night Call
Simmiland
Medusa and Her Lover 

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:

The Colony
Wicked

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Episode 115 - Song of the Lioness Book 3 and 4

Do you love romance? Do you love romances as embodiments of different modes of patriarchy? Then do we have a book series for you! In this episode, we tackle Tamora Pierce's The Woman Who Rides Like a Man and Lioness Rampant, the final two books in the Song of the Lioness quartet, and grapple with the problems of a beloved series, including how they affect its modern relevance. 

Warning: There's no cursing, but there are frequent mentions of sex and sexuality. Also a lot of immaturity, sorry.

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

More than escapism : environmentalism and feminism in the young adult fantasy novels of Tamora Pierce by Michael James Hancock

NEGOTIATING FEMININITY: TOMBOY GENDER PERFORMANCE IN THE WRITINGS OF TAMORA PIERCE AND SUZANNE COLLINS by Shauna Maragh

Musings on Diverse Worlds by Deirdre F. Baker

Politics of Piety: The Islamic Revival and the Feminist Subject by Saba Mahmood

Revisiting Corus: The Woman Who Rides Like a Man by Cindy Massre

Racism and Some Sexism in Woman Who Rides Like A Man by Angela

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WWBUT 12 - Suddenly They Are On The Moon

Are you ready to hear about Disneyland? We certainly hope so.

Warning: There are some mentions of sex as we talk about Tidelands. Nothing explicit, just mentions.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Listening To:

Rabbits

Reading:

The Near Witch by V. E. Schwab

Watching:

The OC Season 2
The Lego Movie 2
Aggretsuko

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:

Tidelands
The Colony
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend

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Episode 114 - Song of the Lioness Book 1 and 2

Cross-dressing, examinations of the necessity of violence, and the unfortunate consequences of second-wave feminism? That's right, we're talking about the Song of the Lioness quartet by Tamora Pierce! In this first entry, we're talking about Alanna: The First Adventure and In the Hand of the Goddess, books one and two of the series that started the beloved Tortall universe.

Warning: Some mentions of genitalia. No explicit content, just mentions.

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

Closed Minds: Tamora Pierce's Teenagers and the Problem of Desire by Anastasia Salter

The REadWind: Alanna: The First Adventure by Melissa Brinks

Negotiating Femininity: Tomboy Gender Performance in the Writings of Tamora Pierce and Suzanne Collins by Shauna Maragh

Impostor Syndrome vs Exceptionalism in Alanna the First Adventure by Angela

More than escapism : environmentalism and feminism in the young adult fantasy novels of Tamora Pierce by Michael James Hancock

What a Cross-Dressing Lady Knight Taught Me About Gender and Sexuality by B Pietras

Tamora Pierce Writes Fantasy That Changes Lives by Meghan Ball

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Stay Posi, Emo Kid - Episode 1 - Most Formative Emo Band

While we're off on vacation, we thought we'd leave you with a little idea we've been kicking around—a positive debate podcast about emo. When we say emo, we mean inclusively; pop punk, old-school emo, midwest emo, and so on are all fair game.

In this first episode, we're talking about the emo bands that had the biggest impact on us as teenagers. We each nominated three bands and picked one for each of us, plus one ruling champion—the band most emblematic of the mid-2000s, when we were teenagers.

We hope you enjoy this while we're frolicking through Disneyland. If you do, let us know—we'd love to make it a (semi-) regular thing, because once you start one podcast you just can't stop.

WWBUT 11 - Bill Cipherpunk

We're both extremely on brand in this episode as we discuss things like the Good Omens adaptation, Shirley Jackson, and recontextualizing Shakespeare.

Warnings: This episode is explicit for language and sexual content in the last thing we discuss. 

What Missy's Been Up To:

Listening To:

Morph Club

Reading: 

We Have Always Lived in the Castle by Shirley Jackson
Sex with Shakespeare by Jillian Keenan

Watching:

We Have Always Lived in the Castle
Aladdin

Playing:

Life is Strange 2 Episode 3

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:

Good Omens
When They See Us
The Society
Kong: Skull Island

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Episode 113 - Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Parts 4 - 5

It's time for part two of our Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood miniseries! Join us as we search for truth. And god. And you. And me. And the world. Et cetera. 

Warnings: We mix up Al and Ed's names sometimes. Please pretend we said the correct one every time.

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

Full Metal Alchemist: Why Isn’t Lust Lustful? by Crystal Kaba 

Of Gods, Guilt And Greed: Morality and Mad Science in Fullmetal Alchemist by Howard Kleinman

Fullmetal Alchemist and the Promise of Power 

Eyes Convey Truth in Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood by Under the Scope

 What is Truth? - Philosophy in Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood by Kato 

More Than Alchemic Reactions: Playing With Gender Norms in Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood by Amber Fetch 

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WWBUT 10 - Podcasting From the Back of a Megalodon

California, here we come. CALIFORNIA, HERE WE COME. CALIFORNIAAAAAA.

What have we been up to? Comfort food, discomfort food, and feeding evil corporations to giant sharks. 

Warning: The word 'pissed' slipped through the cracks.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Watching:

The OC
Mortal Kombat
Booksmart
Doom Patrol

Reading:

Your Black Friend by Ben Passmore
GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS by Jenn Woodall
Siren School by Isabella Ratman
Please Destroy the Internet and Please Destroy My Enemies by Michael Sweater
Magical Beatdown vol. 1 and 2 by Jenn Woodall

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:

Game of Thrones
Booksmart
The Meg
Godzilla
Chernobyl

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