Episodes

Episode 96 - PAX West

We're back from PAX West and boy howdy, are we tired. But lucky for you, we're back with interviews, panel discussions, and all the great games we played, as well as a LENGTHY discussion of what we've been up to!

WARNING: There’s some cussing in this one. Oops.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Reading:
The Hate U Give by Angie Thomas
Labyrinth Lost by Zoraida Cordova

Watching:
Annihilation
Crazy Rich Asians
To All the Boys I've Loved Before

Playing:
Shadow of the Colossus
Final Fantasy X
Battle Chef Brigade

What Merri's Been Up To:

Reading:
The Raven Boys by Maggie Stiefvater

Watching:
The 100

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

We Need a New ToeJam & Earl As Soon As Possible by Tom Mc Shea
Game Narrative 20XX: Futures of Interactive Storytelling
League of Heels: West Coast Wishes

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Episode 95 - Capitalism and the Animation Industry

We're back with a special guest for episode 95, in which we're talking about the animation industry, capitalism, and the critiques we're seeing in children's media. Thank you so much to our guest for bringing personal insight and professional knowledge to our discussion!

You might notice some choppiness throughout this episode. To protect our guest's identity, we decided it was in everyone's best interest to edit her name out. Though it might sound a little unusual, it's not a problem with your speakers or connection, just the natural result of taking a second or so out of a sentence. Same with the fuzziness that comes up midway through and fades in and out —we're sorry for the technical problems! Hope you enjoy the discussion regardless!

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

We didn't discuss all these pieces during the episode, but they're all worth reading!

Leading Hollywood movies based on merchandise sales revenue as of January 2016 (in billion U.S. dollars)
Pixar’s Art Leaves Profit Watchers Edgy by Brooks Barnes
'Star Wars,' 'Minions' to Lead Record Year for Toy Industry by Alex Ben Block
'Minions' Could Become One Of The Highest-Grossing Animated Movies Ever by Natalie Robehmed
List of highest-grossing animated movies
Animating Hierarchy: Disney and the Globalization of Capitalism by Lee Artz
Steven Universe creator has done more for LGBTQ visibility than you might know by Nick Romano
That Time Disney Remade Beauty and the Beast by Linday Ellis
Wage theft coverage from Cartoon Brew
'Sausage Party' Animators' Pay Dispute Prompts Union Complaint by Tobias Burns and Etan Vlessing
The working conditions for some ‘Sausage Party’ animators were pretty terrible by Stephanie Merry
6 Ways 'Sausage Party' Got Away With Screwing Its Artists by Christina H
Vancouver Animation Industry Survey Reveals Alarming Low Wages and Unpaid Overtime Practices by Amid Amidi
Pocahontas Was a Mistake, and Here's Why! by Lindsay Ellis
The Revisionist World of Disney: Mary Poppins, Walt Disney and Saving Mr. Banks by Lindsay Ellis
Disney CEO asks employees to chip in to pay copyright lobbyists by Joe Mullin
The Tragedy of the "Commons" by Mexie
Ending The Tragedy of The Commons by Big Think and Elinor Ostrom
Wall-E is an eco-dystopian gem — an anti-consumption movie (from Disney!) by Joe Romm
Wall-E as Sociological Storytelling by Pop Culture Detective
'The Lego Movie' Isn't Just Anti-Capitalist. It's Anti-Fox, Too. by Emmett Rensin
The LEGO Movie is Practically Communist by Bilge Ebiri
Disney, 21st Century Fox Shareholders Approve $71.3 Billion Merger by Amid Amidi
Mister Gotcha by Matt Bors
Stop Asking “Is This Feminist?” by Lindsay Ellis

Disney Strike History and the Animation Guild:

Cartoons and Class Struggle by Kenneth Bergfeld
On This Day 75 Years Ago, Disney Animation Changed Forever: The Disney Artists’ Strike of 1941 by Amid Amidi
The Disney Strike of 1941: How It Changed Animation & Comics by Tom Sito
The Animation Guild History
What animation unions do
A Tale of Two Titmouses: A Cartoon Brew Investigation by Amid Amidi

Bad Takes:

EconPop - The Economics of WALL-E by EconStories
Your guide to the WALL-E controversy by Sean O'Neal (okay, they're not ALL bad takes, but there are some real stinkers in here)
WALL-E: Economic Ignorance and the War on Modernity by Gennady Stolyarov II
5 secret political meanings hidden in ‘The Lego Movie’ by Kyle Smith (again, not all bad, but beware the ones that are)

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*REUPLOAD* Episode 94 - Bobs Burgers s. 5 - 8

REUPLOAD - we're having some problems with new episodes syncing to Apple Podcasts. This is the same episode posted on Monday, just reuploaded in the hopes that Apple Podcasts will sync it correctly. Fingers crossed!

Welcome to episode 94, in which we discuss seasons five through eight—well, we try. It turns out that's a LOT of TV to watch in a short period of time, which spurs on another conversation for us about how we consume media.

To get right to the Bob's Burgers talk, skip to 00:30:00.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Listening To:
IndieComplete

Reading:
Annihilation by Jeff Vandermeer
The Raven King by Maggie Stiefvater

What Merri's Been Up To:

Listening To:
Darknet Diaries
Mabel

Reading:
Labyrinth Lost by Zoraida Cordova

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:
Bob's Burgers creator promises to improve gender balance in show's voice cast by Piya Sinha-Roy
Infrequently Asked Questions: Why do we binge-watch? By Brandon Baker

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Episode 94 - Bobs Burgers S. 5 - 8

Welcome to episode 94, in which we discuss seasons five through eight—well, we try. It turns out that's a LOT of TV to watch in a short period of time, which spurs on another conversation for us about how we consume media.

To get right to the Bob's Burgers talk, skip to 00:30:00.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Listening To:
IndieComplete

Reading:
Annihilation by Jeff Vandermeer
The Raven King by Maggie Stiefvater

What Merri's Been Up To:

Listening To:
Darknet Diaries
Mabel

Reading:
Labyrinth Lost by Zoraida Cordova

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:
Bob's Burgers creator promises to improve gender balance in show's voice cast by Piya Sinha-Roy
Infrequently Asked Questions: Why do we binge-watch? By Brandon Baker

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Episode 93 - Bobs Burgers S. 1 - 4

It's episode 93, and we're spending some time with one of our favorite TV families - the Belchers of Bob's Burgers! Join us as we discuss an actual working class TV family, why the comedy works for us, and how we think it could do better.

To get right to the Bob's Burgers talk, skip to 00:22:20.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Listening To:
I Only Listen to the Mountain Goats

Watching:
A Quiet Place

Reading:
The Adventure Zone: Here There Be Gerblins by Clint McElroy and Carey Pietsch

What Merri's Been Up To:

Listening To:
The Adventure Zone
Sawbones
Wonderful

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:
Bob’s Burgers became TV’s most enjoyable show by channeling early Simpsons by Todd VanDerWerff
The Belchers on Bob's Burgers Are the Most Perfect TV Family by Ben Collins
"Bob's Burgers" serves up bad first course by Tim Goodman
Why Tina Belcher Is a Folk Hero for Anxious Young People By Jon Christian
Feminism In A Run-Down Taffy Factory: The Women Of 'Bob's Burgers' by Alexander McCall

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Episode 92 - (The) Children of Men

Welcome to episode 92, in which we discuss (The) Children of Men—PD James' novel and Alfonso Cuaron's film. It's depressing.

To get right to the Children of Men talk, skip to 00:22:40.

Warnings: We cussed. We didn't meant to, but it happened.

Mistakes: Missy says that she and the novel "seriously divulge." She means "diverge."

What Missy's Been Up To:

Listening To:
Dungeons, Dice, and Everything Nice

Watching:
Oceans 8
The Road to El Dorado

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:
The Handmaid's Tale

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:
Children of Differing Visions: Contrasting a P. D. James Novel and the Movie It Inspired by Caryn James
Life’s Value by Alan Jacobs
Child of the Long Take: Alfonso Cuaron 's Film Aesthetics in the Shadow of Globalization by James N . Udden
The Three Amigos: The Transnational Filmmaking of Guillermo del Toro, Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu and Alfonso Cuaron by Deborah Shaw
The Limits of Citizenship: The Fetus and the Refugee in Children of Men by Heather Latimer
Why 'Children of Men' is the most relevant film of 2017 by Abraham Riesman
Ethics, Aesthetics, and the Future in Alfonso Cuarón's "Children of Men" BY Samuel Amago
Politics, Bible Stories, and Hope An Interview with Children of Men Director Alfonso Cuarón by Annie Wagner

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Episode 91 - Jurassic Park Sequels

It's episode 91, all about Jurassic Park sequels. Remember how enthusiastic we were about Jurassic Park? There's, uh, less of that.

To get right to the Jurassic Park talk, skip to 00:11:30.

Warnings: We cussed.

Mistakes: Missy says director J. A. Bayona's name wrong—she swapped the 'a' and 'o.'

What Missy's Been Up To:

Reading:
Becoming Dangerous by Katie West and Jasmine Elliot
Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton

Watching:
Grand Design

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:
Queer Eye

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:
The Jurassic Park Franchise: What the Hell Happened? By Michael Roffman, Dominick Suzanne-Mayer and Randall Colburn
JURASSIC PARK III Revisited: “This Is How You Make Dinosaurs?” by Matt Goldberg
Jurassic World: Capitalism Eats Itself: Russell Brand The Trews (E341)
Review: A parable on science and technology by Paul F. Uhlir
Colin Trevorrow on 'Jurassic World's monster star Indominus Rex by Joe McGovern
How the dinosaurs in Jurassic World came to life
‘Jurassic World’: A Big, Dumb, Sexist Mess by Marlow Stern

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Episode 90 - Jurassic Park

I hope you didn't just think we were going to talk about how cool dinosaurs are, because it's time for episode 90, all about the wild world of Jurassic Park. We're talking about gender, capitalism, good and bad reproduction, and fashion! It's a long one, folks.

To get right to the Jurassic Park talk, skip to 00:13:00.

Warnings: We cussed.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Playing:
The Sexy Brutale

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:
Queer Eye

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:
"There Is No Unauthorized Breeding in Jurassic Park": Gender and the Uses of Genetics by Laura Briggs and Jodi I. Kelber-Kaye
'Jurassic Park' is 100 times more feminist than 'Jurassic World' by Molly Fitzpatrick
Woman Inherits the Earth”: Deconstructing Jurassic Park as an Early Text in Third- Wave Feminism by Graeme J. Wilson
Review: A parable on science and technology by Paul F. Uhlir
‘Jurassic Park’: Resisting Gender Tropes by Siobhan Denton
Dr. Ellie Sattler | The Most Important Character of Jurassic Park by Essays on Frame
Screen Stars With Teeth To Spare by Janet Maslin
Jurassic Park Review by Peter Travers
The Thing From the Tar Pits : JURASSIC PARK By Michael Crichton by Andrew Ferguson

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Episode 89 - Infinity War

Welcome to episode 89, which is almost as long as the topic we're discussing--INFINITY WAR! What did we think about Thanos' ideology? How about those—well, you know. What's up with Gamora's storyline? Find out our thoughts within.

To get right to the Infinity War talk, skip to 00:14:30.

Warnings: Lots of swearing! Also some discussions of abuse and sexuality, though nothing graphic.

Mistakes: Missy mistakenly says she didn't feel the emotional beats of "the other arcs of Black Panther," but she meant Infinity War.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Reading:
Wildwood Dancing by Juliet Marillier

Watching:
Solo: A Star Wars Story

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Aggretsuko

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:
A Fucking Liberal Is the Villain of Avengers: Infinity War by Charles Mudede
What Makes Thanos a Great Villain in AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR by Michael Walsh
It’s Time to Talk About Marvel’s Gamora Problem by Brandon O'Brien
Scott Benson's Tweet thread about puzzle narratives

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Episode 88 - Ironside by Holly Black

A romantic conclusion, a debate over faerie morality, and a the weirdness of narrators - all contained in episode 88, on Holly Black's IRONSIDE!

To get right to the Ironside talk, skip to 00:18:00.

Warnings: Marked explicit for swearing, but also some brief mentions of sexual assault.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Reading:
Y the Last Man Volume 2 by Brian K. Vaughn, Pia Guerra, Jose Marzen Jr., Pamela Rambo, and Clem Robins

Watching:
Face/Off
Aggretsuko
Deadpool

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:
Digimon

Reading:
Labyrinth Lost by Zoraida Cordova

Listening To:
TANIS
The Last Movie

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:
Interview: Holly Black by Slayground
Ironside Review by Nice Girls Read Books
An Interview with Holly Black at Daily Dragon
Ironside: A Modern Faery's Tale by Holly Black by The Bookbag

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Episode 87 - Valiant by Holly Black

Have you ever wanted to hear us talk a lot about having a troll boyfriend and a sword? You're in luck, because this week we're chatting about Holly Black's Valiant, in which those two basic human desires are satisfied. Also, how much is too much to show, why do we love monster romance, and finding ourselves in a story about finding yourself.

To get right to the Valiant talk, skip to 00:25:00.

Warnings: This one's marked explicit for a reason, folks. Alongside a bunch of cussing, you also have graphic discussions (by us and in the book) of drug use and some discussion of sexual assault.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Reading:
Y the Last Man by Brian K. Vaughn, Pia Guerra, Jose Marzen Jr., Pamela Rambo, and Clem Robins

Watching:
Dirty Computer
Emo the Musical

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:
Infinity War
The Shannara Chronicles

Reading:
We Could Plant a House, We Could Build a Tree by Like_a_Dove

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:
Stupid sexy monsters: why we like beastly romances by Kayleigh Robinson
Why Is Monster Erotica So Popular Anyway? By Lauren Davis

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Episode 86 - Tithe by Holly Black

Join us as we venture deep under the earth into a wild, fae bacchanal of excess and indulgence - or don't, because we're talking about Holly Black's Tithe in episode 86! As one of our favorite YA books when we were young adults, how did this shape the people we became? How did we handle the creepy parts? And what would we do if we found ourselves with an invitation to a faerie party?

To get right to the Tithe talk, skip to 00:15:00.

Warnings: A teensy bit of cussing, but some pretty frank discussions of sex and masturbation.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Reading:
Delicious in Dungeon Vol. 3 & 4 - Ryoko Kui

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:
The Shannara Chronicles

Reading:
Play to Win by enterprisingly

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:
Preorder Missy's book!
Let Me Tell You About My OC Series at Sidequest
Holly Black: An exclusive SCBWI Team Blog Interview!
Holly Black’s TITHE: Fine Teen Guilty Pleasure But Why Give It Children’s Awards? by Hammering Shield
The Moral of the Story: Young Adult Authors Speak on Morality, Obligation, and Age Appropriateness Michael DiCicco and Paula Taylor-Greathouse
The Reader Speaks Out: Adolescent Reflections about Controversial Young Adult Literature by Grace Enriquez

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Episode 85 - Lady Bird

Big dreams, small towns - is it our upbringing, or a discussion about Lady Bird? Fun fact: it's both! It's time for episode 85, all about Greta Gerwig's 2017 film Lady Bird!

To get right to the Lady Bird talk, skip to 00:34:00.

Warnings: We're cussing. We weren't going to, but then it happened. Oops!

What Missy's Been Up To:

Watching:
Jumanji
Ready Player One
Big Dreams, Small Spaces

Reading:
Sophie's World by Jostein Gaarder

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:
Clueless

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:
What big publishers can learn about representation from small games by Meg Jayanth
A Tribute to Lady Bird, Which Won No Oscars, But Was Still Hella Tight by Hunter Harris
Lady Bird Review by Sheila O'Malley
Lady Bird is fit to stand beside the most glittering examples of female coming-of-age films by Ryan Gilby
Lady Bird is not just one of 2017’s best films. It’s a beautiful, hilarious act of love. by Alissa Wilkinson
7 Teenage Girls and Their Moms on Watching Lady Bird Together by Anne Silman
Why the Mother-Daughter Relationship in Lady Bird Feels So Real by Anna Silman
Review: Greta Gerwig’s ‘Lady Bird’ Is Big-Screen Perfection by AO Scott

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Episode 84 - Crazy Ex-Girlfriend

Put on your sexy getting ready song, because it's time for our 84th episode, all about Crazy Ex-Girlfriend! We're talking about mental health (naturally), cringe comedy, and all our favorite ditties.

To get right to the Crazy Ex-Girlfriend talk, skip to 00:16:00.

Mistakes: Little Corvus just goes by Little Corvus! Totally Missy's mistake. Also, sorry about the audio fluctuations this episode; for some reason our mixer ports love to be weird. We'll keep an eye on that for our next episode and see if we can isolate the cause.

Warnings: Potentially triggering discussions of mental health, suicidal ideation, and suicide, plus cussing.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Watching:
Black Panther
Ladybird
A Wrinkle in Time

Reading:
Songs for the Dead by Andrea Fort, Michael Christopher Heron, Sam Beck, and Deron Bennett

Listening To:
Faculty of Horror

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:
Black Panther
A Wrinkle in Time

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend Creators Tell the Stories Behind 6 Songs From Season 3 by Devon Ivie
'Crazy Ex-Girlfriend' Had 2017's Most Sensitive Depiction Of Mental Illness On TV by Samantha Rollins
The Hardest-Working Show in Show Business by E. Alex Jung
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend’s Darryl Is TV’s Most Darling Bisexual by E. Alex Jung
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend’s Darryl and White Josh Have the Healthiest Relationship on TV by Liz Baessler
‘Crazy Ex-Girlfriend’ Pulls Off Another Spectacular Ending by Liz Baessler

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Episode 83 - Emerald City Comic Con

Cons are tiring! Lucky for you, we're bringing our experience at this year's Emerald City Comic Con direct to your ears in case you missed it.

To get right to the ECCC talk, skip to 00:36:00.

Warnings: Cussing! Also some inappropriate discussions.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Playing:
Life is Strange: Farewell
Where the Water Tastes Like Wine (Missy's Review)

Reading:
The Hours by Michael Cunningham
Von Spatz by Anna Haifisch
Chevalier by Jess Taylor
The Past Increases, The Future Recedes by Matthew Erman and Jess Taylor
A Witch Named Finn by Sara Duvall
Breath of the Wild Child by Genue Revuelta
Fauns and Fairies by Trungles

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:
Star Wars: Rebels

Reading:
The Last Jedi Novelization by Jason Fry

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Episode 82 - The Good Place

Welcome! Everything is fine. Maybe. Because we're talking about The Good Place! Mostly, we're talking about philosophy, ethics, and our personal moral failings and strengths. It's a bit heavy.

To get right to The Good Place talk, skip to 00:14:20.

Warnings: This episode is censored, but contains numerous uses of "hell" as well as some conversations about the fear of death.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Playing:
Florence

Reading:
The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms by N. K. Jemisin

Listening To:
Witch, Please

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:
Riverdale
Star Wars: Rebels

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

How The Good Place Goes Beyond ‘The Trolley Problem’ by Elizabeth Yuko
The Good Place: how a sitcom made philosophy seem cool by Andrew P Street
The Good Psychology In 'The Good Place' by Tania Lombrozo
Talking to a Philosopher About ‘The Good Place’ by Alison Herman
Searching for The Good Place Within America by Angela Yuen
No Rest for the Wicked in The Good Place Midseason Return by Emily Lauer

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Episode 81 - Life is Strange: Before the Storm

We're returning to Arcadia Bay in Episode 81 - Life is Strange: Before the Storm! How does the prequel compare to the original? Just how queer is it, really? Why is Missy so het up to talk about labor? Find out within.

To get right to the Life is Strange talk, skip to 00:19:20.

Warnings: This episode is uncensored, and contains some potentially triggering discussions.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Playing:
Eco

Watching:
The Good Place S1

What Merri's Been Up To:

Wizarding World of Harry Potter


Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

The Eco Diaries: We’re Not Very Good At This Ecology Thing by Joesph Langdon and Melissa Brinks
The Ongoing Voice Actor's Strike Is More Than Just a Little Drama by Ian Williams
SAG-AFTRA Reaches Tentative Agreement to End Video Game Strike
Hella Big Shoes To Fill: Deck Nine Games’ Zak Garriss on Life is Strange: Before the Storm by Melissa Brinks
Life is Strange: Before The Storm Ep. Two Captures The Recklessness of Teenage Crushes by Patricia Hernandez
Dread and Hope Characterize Life is Strange: Before the Storm Episode Two by Melissa Brinks

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Bonus Episode - Star Wars: The Last Jedi

It's time for another round of STAR WARS FEELINGS. This time, we're chatting about The Last Jedi, heroism, legacies, and why Rose Tico is the greatest.

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

Luke Skywalker Isn’t Supposed to Be “Nice” by Emily Asher-Perrin

Star Wars: The Last Jedi Confronts the Temptation to Run Away by Natalie Zutter

Wow, People Are Really Mad at Poe Dameron by Emily Asher-Perrin

The Last Jedi Isn’t for the Fans by Andrew Kahn

How I Learned to See the Star (Wars) Through Rose Tico’s Eyes by Angel Cruz

Episode 80 - Coheed and Cambria + The Amory Wars

We're (mostly) wrapping up our pop-punk-inspired comic miniseries with episode 80, discussing The Amory Wars and Coheed and Cambria. It's…well, it's not our favorite, let's leave it at that. Join us for thoughts on misogyny, on emulating the past, and on how we actually don't really know anything about the technicalities of music.

To get right to the Coheed and Cambria talk, skip to 00:16:10.

Warnings: This episode is uncensored, and contains some potentially triggering discussions of rape.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Listening To:
Eating the Fantastic

Reading:
The Bloody Chamber by Angela Carter

Watching:
IT (2017)
Happy Death Day

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:
The Magicians
The Last Jedi

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

Q&A: Coheed and Cambria's Claudio Sanchez on setting the Amory Wars aside for 'Color Before the Sun' by Ed Masley
SDCC Coverage Interview: Claudio and Chondra Talk THE AMORY WARS, Coheed And Cambria, And More! by Brandon Bloxdorf

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Episode 79 - My Chemical Romance, Umbrella Academy, and Doom Patrol

This is how we like to do it in the murder scene—if by 'the murder scene' you mean episode 79 and by 'like to do it' you mean 'talk about our great love for My Chemical Romance and Gerard Way's comics!' Equal parts fan raving, analysis, and discussion of why weirdness is a good thing, this episode is pretty much a love letter to one of our favorite bands. Enjoy!

To get right to the My Chemical Romance talk, skip to 00:17:00.

Warnings: This episode is uncensored, and contains some potentially triggering discussions of mental illness and addiction.

What Missy's Been Up To:

Watching:
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend

What Merri's Been Up To:

Watching:
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
Marvel's Runaways

Some Links You Might Find Interesting:

The Many Bizarre Lives of DC Comics' Doom Patrol, 'The World's Strangest Heroes' by James Whitbrook
Gerard Way on the stranger side of DC Comics with Doom Patrol and Young Animal by Ernie Estrella
Tweet thread on Rebis
Heroes and Gyros: Gerard Way Bites into Doom Patrol by Tim Beedle
Until I’m Done Or Until I Get Fired: Gerard Way On His Plans For Young Animal [Interview] by Andrew Wheeler

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